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| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Aronoff
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| The Smashing Pumpkins, Cheap Trick
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! align="left" | Notes
| First performance of Transmission, last performance of If You Want My Love, only performances of Mandocello and Just Got Back. The Cheap Trick portion of the show was proshot and multitracked for official release.
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #1a
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| SBD
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| CD
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| Soundboard
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| ~10m
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| No
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| "Music For Hangovers" official release (Cheap Trick)
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| Mandocello and If You Want My Love only.
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| SBD
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| CDR
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| Unknown
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| 5m
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| No
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| "The Complete In Color" commercial bootleg
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| You're All Talk only.
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| AUD
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| Unknown
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| ANA(?)>CDR
| "Adore" official reissue 2014
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| Missing "You're All Talk". I have an ANA(3) I need to transfer-rhinowing
| Transmission (rehearsal) only.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1a
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| "In Color" Bootleg
| ANA-1 > dEdit > FLAC
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| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-02.flac16 16-bit download]
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| Only portion of set with Cheap Trick.
| Set one only.
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| "Music For Hangovers" Official DVD (Cheap Trick)
| ANA-3>CDR
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| Mandocello and If You Want My Love only.
| Missing You're All Talk, analog generation unverified.
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| Unknown
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| "Music For Hangovers" Official Release (Cheap Trick)
| DDC-? > CDR
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| Mandocello and If You Want My Love only.
| Cheap Trick portion of the set only.
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Set One:
Set One:
* To Sheila
* To Sheila [6:59]
* Tear
* Tear [7:15]
* Once Upon a Time
* Once Upon a Time (false start)
* Daphne Descends
* Once Upon a Time [4:30]
* Let Me Give the World to You
* Daphne Descends [4:53]
* Ava Adore
* Let Me Give the World to You [6:24]
* Shame
* I Want You to Want Me [Cheap Trick] (tease)
* Transmission [Joy Division]
* Ava Adore [4:35]
 
* Shame [6:34]
Set Two:<br>
* Transmission [Joy Division] [10:47]
Set Two:
* You're All Talk [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Kenny on maracas)
* You're All Talk [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Kenny on maracas)
* Mandocello [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Billy on guitar)
* Mandocello [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Billy on guitar)
* Just Got Back [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Billy on guitar)
* Just Got Back [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Billy on guitar)
* If You Want My Love [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with D'arcy on vocals)
* If You Want My Love [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with D'arcy on vocals)
=== Notes ===
* Kenny's first show
* First performance of Transmission
* Cheap Trick's set is officially released


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
Rick Nielsen: Ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to have here with us tonight, to have four fine individuals, a real tribute to the city of Chicago and a tribute to music in general and I'm happy to say that they're our friends and I hope they're your friends, ladies and gentlemen, the Smashing Pumpkins.<br>
'''To Sheila'''<br>
'''Tear'''<br>
BC: Thank you very much.  ...<br>
'''Once Upon a Time''' (abandoned - Aronoff starts the song right as D’arcy starts talking)<br>
D’arcy: Do you know Kenny...in the band?  That’s him.<br>
BC: Pretend he’s the new drummer, he doesn’t know [unintelligible couple words].<br>
D’arcy: [unintelligible]<br>
BC: I know Mellencamp, maybe you could play underneath him when he was talking, but when we’re talking, you don't play underneath us.  Get that straight right now, Kenny.  Heh, my neck hurts.<br>
'''Once Upon a Time'''<br>
BC: Like to take this moment to thank Cheap Trick...for asking us to play the show, it means a lot to us, as you know ‘cause we are Chicagoans.  ''I'' definitely never thought I would see this day come, so...I'm not sure they did either, it's all good, thank you.<br>
'''Daphne Descends'''<br>
'''Let Me Give the World to You'''<br>
BC: You know, as we were just playing that song, I remembered, like, we used to play above the - practice above the Cubby Bear about nine years ago.  We'd like to thank the Cubby Bear for treating us like shit back then by the way too.  We haven't forgotten you.  And uh, I remember one time I came up with this idea and I said, “Okay, we're gonna do this like uh, kind of hip-hop version of I Want You to Want Me and D'arcy, you're gonna sing it,” heh heh.  So we spent like two hours goin’, ''(singing)'' “I want you to want me”, it never worked obviously but...just all kinda came back to me in that particular moment.  Probably the vestiges.  And away we go.<br>
'''Ava Adore'''<br>
'''Shame'''<br>
BC: Thank you very much, thank you for being awesome, cool, wonderful, hope you have a great time tonight.<br>
Iha: Yes.<br>
BC: We still believe Cheap Trick is...one of the greatest bands ever.  [unintelligible word, sounds like “pajinka” and gets a decent reaction from the crowd].  And now we'd like to destroy everything that they stand for.<br>
'''Transmission'''<br>
BC: Kenny Aronoff on the drums!  Thank you, have a good night.<br>
D’arcy: So cool of them [unintelligible]<br>
BC: God bless you.<br>
D’arcy: So cool, I’m [unintelligible].<br>
BC: Bennett, can we have the lights on for one second so we can say hello to you?<br>
D’arcy: [2 unintelligible words].<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>

Latest revision as of 12:50, 13 March 2021

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1998-05-02
Venue Metro
Location Chicago, IL, US
Venue Type Club
Capacity 1100
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Aronoff
Order of Bands The Smashing Pumpkins, Cheap Trick
Notes First performance of Transmission, last performance of If You Want My Love, only performances of Mandocello and Just Got Back. The Cheap Trick portion of the show was proshot and multitracked for official release.
Surfaced Recordings
SBD #1a
Source SBD
Format CD
Equipment Soundboard
Length ~10m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "Music For Hangovers" official release (Cheap Trick)
Notes Mandocello and If You Want My Love only.
SBD #1b
Source SBD
Format CDR
Equipment Unknown
Length 5m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "The Complete In Color" commercial bootleg
Notes You're All Talk only.
SBD #1c
Source SBD
Format CD
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "Adore" official reissue 2014
Notes Transmission (rehearsal) only.
AUD #1a
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length 55m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation ANA-1 > dEdit > FLAC
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Set one only.
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length 70m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation ANA-3>CDR
Notes Missing You're All Talk, analog generation unverified.
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~25m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-? > CDR
Notes Cheap Trick portion of the set only.
PRO #1
Source PRO
Format DVD
Equipment Pro-Cams
Length ~10m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "Music For Hangovers" official release (Cheap Trick)
Notes Mandocello and If You Want My Love only.
Unsurfaced Recordings
SBD #1
Source SBD
Format ADAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~55m
Complete? Yes
Notes Vault copy.

Setlist

Set One:

  • To Sheila [6:59]
  • Tear [7:15]
  • Once Upon a Time (false start)
  • Once Upon a Time [4:30]
  • Daphne Descends [4:53]
  • Let Me Give the World to You [6:24]
  • I Want You to Want Me [Cheap Trick] (tease)
  • Ava Adore [4:35]
  • Shame [6:34]
  • Transmission [Joy Division] [10:47]

Set Two:

  • You're All Talk [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Kenny on maracas)
  • Mandocello [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Billy on guitar)
  • Just Got Back [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with Billy on guitar)
  • If You Want My Love [Cheap Trick] (Cheap Trick, with D'arcy on vocals)

Notes

  • Kenny's first show
  • First performance of Transmission
  • Cheap Trick's set is officially released

Banter

Rick Nielsen: Ladies and gentlemen, we are proud to have here with us tonight, to have four fine individuals, a real tribute to the city of Chicago and a tribute to music in general and I'm happy to say that they're our friends and I hope they're your friends, ladies and gentlemen, the Smashing Pumpkins.
To Sheila
Tear
BC: Thank you very much. ...
Once Upon a Time (abandoned - Aronoff starts the song right as D’arcy starts talking)
D’arcy: Do you know Kenny...in the band? That’s him.
BC: Pretend he’s the new drummer, he doesn’t know [unintelligible couple words].
D’arcy: [unintelligible]
BC: I know Mellencamp, maybe you could play underneath him when he was talking, but when we’re talking, you don't play underneath us. Get that straight right now, Kenny. Heh, my neck hurts.
Once Upon a Time
BC: Like to take this moment to thank Cheap Trick...for asking us to play the show, it means a lot to us, as you know ‘cause we are Chicagoans. I definitely never thought I would see this day come, so...I'm not sure they did either, it's all good, thank you.
Daphne Descends
Let Me Give the World to You
BC: You know, as we were just playing that song, I remembered, like, we used to play above the - practice above the Cubby Bear about nine years ago. We'd like to thank the Cubby Bear for treating us like shit back then by the way too. We haven't forgotten you. And uh, I remember one time I came up with this idea and I said, “Okay, we're gonna do this like uh, kind of hip-hop version of I Want You to Want Me and D'arcy, you're gonna sing it,” heh heh. So we spent like two hours goin’, (singing) “I want you to want me”, it never worked obviously but...just all kinda came back to me in that particular moment. Probably the vestiges. And away we go.
Ava Adore
Shame
BC: Thank you very much, thank you for being awesome, cool, wonderful, hope you have a great time tonight.
Iha: Yes.
BC: We still believe Cheap Trick is...one of the greatest bands ever. [unintelligible word, sounds like “pajinka” and gets a decent reaction from the crowd]. And now we'd like to destroy everything that they stand for.
Transmission
BC: Kenny Aronoff on the drums! Thank you, have a good night.
D’arcy: So cool of them [unintelligible]
BC: God bless you.
D’arcy: So cool, I’m [unintelligible].
BC: Bennett, can we have the lights on for one second so we can say hello to you?
D’arcy: [2 unintelligible words].

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