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| The Smashing Pumpkins
| The Smashing Pumpkins
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| First performance of I Am One Part II. First post-hiatus performances of Cupid de Locke, Soma, Bodies, Crestfallen, I of the Mourning, Landslide, Galapogos, and Age of Innocence. First performance of Gossamer since 2007-07-31. Muzzle was on the setlist between That's the Way and I Am One Part II, but was not played.
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| FLAC-M
| FLAC-M
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! align="left" | Official Bootleg
| [http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/0,3011/Smashing-Pumpkins-mp3-flac-download-11-4-2008-Massey-Hall-Toronto-ON.html livedownloads.com]
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| An updated version with corrected track marks and track titles became available after the initial release.
| An updated version with corrected track marks and track titles became available after the initial release.
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! align="left" | Official Bootleg
| [http://livesmashingpumpkins.com/live-music/0,3011/Smashing-Pumpkins-mp3-flac-download-11-4-2008-Massey-Hall-Toronto-ON.html LiveSmashingPumpkins.com]
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
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| Built-in>R-09
| built-in>R-09
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| ~160m
| 161m
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| WAV-M>FLAC
| WAV-M>FLAC
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp2008-11-04.flac16 16-bit download]
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! align="left" | Notes
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| CA-11>BAT-2B>R-09(16bit/44.1k)
| CA-11>BAT-2B>R-09(16/44.1)
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! align="left" | Length
| ~160m
| 160m
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| Row H.
| Row H.
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #3
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| Built-in>TCM-353V
| built-in>TCM-353V
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! align="left" | Length
| ~150m
| 138m
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! align="left" | Complete?
| No
| Yes
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| ANA-1>dEdit>FLAC
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| One song cut.
| Tape flip during Gossamer. Speed problems during the second half of the show. Occasional sections in dual-mono. Crestfallen and I of the Mourning are unlistenable due to a bad tape.
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #3
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* Tonight, Tonight
* Tonight, Tonight
* Soma
* Soma
* I Am One Part II
* I Am One Part 2
* As Rome Burns
* As Rome Burns
* Ava Adore
* Ava Adore
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* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
* Galapogos
* Galapogos
* Gossamer
* Gossamer (16:11)
* As Rome Burns
* As Rome Burns
* The Sounds of Silence [Simon]
* The Sounds of Silence [Simon]
** Lil' Red Riding Hood [Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs] (tease)
** Lil' Red Riding Hood [Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs]
* The March Hare
* The March Hare (12:19 medley)
** Suffer (middle section only)
** Suffer (middle section only)
* Age of Innocence
* Age of Innocence
Encore:
Encore:
* That's the Way (My Love Is)
* That's the Way (My Love Is)
* I Am One Part II
* I Am One Part 2 (15:20)
 
=== Notes ===
* 99 Floors, Owata, Sunkissed, Landslide, Disarm, and That's the Way (My Love Is) performed acoustic
* First performance of Gossamer since 2007-07-31
* First performance of I of the Mourning and Age of Innocence since 2000-12-02
* First performance of Soma since 1999-04-24
* First performance of Crestfallen since 1998-10-23
* First performance of Bodies since 1997-07-09
* First performance of Galapogos since 1996-12-17
* First performance of Landslide since 1996-12-11
* First performance of Cupid de Locke since 1996-05-15
* First performance of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness since 1996-05-07
* First performance of I Am One Part 2 since 1989-09-08


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
2008 Intro<br>
'''Ava Adore'''<br>
'''Cupid de Locke'''<br>
'''1979'''<br>
BC: Thank you. ...  Harmonica malfunction.<br>
'''99 Floors''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Owata''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Sunkissed''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Soma'''<br>
BC: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you!  Are you ready?  No, are you READY?  Alright.<br>
'''Cherub Rock'''<br>
'''Zero'''<br>
> '''Bodies'''<br>
'''Crestfallen'''<br>
'''I of the Mourning'''<br>
'''A Song for a Son'''<br>
BC: Thank you.  ...  I need to catch my breath, heh heh heh. ...  Thank you.  It’s what you call in show business “stall” so I can catch my breath.  Stalling.  This my man Jeff Schroeder right here.  Jeff said...<br>
Guy in crowd: Billy, what about Obama?<br>
BC: ‘Scuse me?<br>
Several people in crowd: Obama!<br>
BC: Obama who?  Obama who?<br>
People in crowd: He won!  We won!<br>
BC: I don’t see any Obama up here, okay?  He ain’t doing me any good right now.  I mean, god bless my man from Chicago but he ain’t helping me right now, you know what I mean?  If he can, if he can help me catch my breath, that would be good.  ''(crowd yelling)'' This is not an open forum like, uh, you know?  This is a rock concert, you remember that?  Concerts?  As we all know, I do better when I play and not talk so I’m gonna to stick to that program tonight.  Gonna show you how we would feel through song, through song.  And fortunately for me, I did not write this next song...but I wish I had, it’s a beautiful.  I-I think you’ll recognize it.<br>
'''Landslide''' (Billy/Jeff acoustic)<br>
BC: Now I did write this next one.<br>
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness'''<br>
> '''Galapogos'''<br>
'''Gossamer'''<br>
'''As Rome Burns'''<br>
'''The Sounds of Silence'''<br>
> '''Li’l Red Riding Hood'''<br>
'''The March Hare'''<br>
> '''Suffer (partial)'''<br>
> '''The March Hare'''<br>
'''Age of Innocence'''<br>
(BC during breakdown after 2nd chorus: Toronto.  Toronto.  Rock-tonto!  Hasn’t caught on yet.  Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of the show.  We’d like to thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.  Thank you.)<br>
[encore break]<br>
'''That’s the Way''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Before we finish up...say thank you one more time for a great show and thank you for the great two night stand, Toronto, thank you. ...  And, uh, all pumpkin jokes aside, I think, uh...<br>
Girl in crowd: I love you!<br>
Other girl in crowd: I love you too!<br>
BC: Okay, we’ll deal with that later, baby.  Um, heh heh heh.  I think, uh, I think there are a few moments in our life that we have to step back and say “whoa” and I think what’s going on in America right now with President ''Obama'', which is mind-boggling.  ...  I’m very proud of my country right now for doing the right thing. ...  So let’s hope that today, today we can look back...ten, twenty years and look back at some new dreams, new realities, new intelligence, heh heh.  Maybe they can stop spying on us now.  Fuckin’ chem trails, whatever the fuck they’re putting in the air!<br>
Guy in crowd: Billy for president!<br>
BC: Yeah right.  ...  I’d tax your ass so bad.  You guys pay high enough taxes here anyway.  You don’t, you don’t need any higher taxes.  I mean, right?  I know that whole thing where hockey players don’t want to come here ‘cause of the taxes, right?  I don’t know.  Right?  Hurts NHL franchises in Canada, right?  Okay.  Not that our Hawks in Chicago are doing very well.  How are your Kings doing?  You don’t want to talk about the Kings.  Gretzky’s coming back, I hear...to throw out the first puck, I think.  Anyway, thank you very much, uh, for the faint of heart, this is one more trip into interspeller...heh heh...interstellar space so you may want to go now.  For the rest of you, enjoy the ride and we’ll see you next time, okay?<br>
'''I Am One Pt. 2'''<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
== Photos & Memorabilia ==
[[Image:Tsp2008-ustour.jpg|250px|left]]
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Latest revision as of 01:56, 8 October 2024

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 2008-11-04
Venue Massey Hall
Location Toronto, ON, CA
Venue Type Concert Hall
Capacity 2800
Lineup Corgan, Chamberlin, Schroeder, Reyes, Harriton, Pooley, Shankar, Bradley, McNair
Order of Bands The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
SBD #1
Source SBD
Format FLAC
Equipment Unknown
Length 154m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation FLAC-M
Notes Some track marks and track titles are incorrect.
SBD #2
Source SBD
Format FLAC
Equipment Unknown
Length 154m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation FLAC-M
Official Bootleg livedownloads.com
Notes An updated version with corrected track marks and track titles became available after the initial release.
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format WAV
Equipment built-in>R-09
Length 161m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation WAV-M>FLAC
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Floor left/center, row M.
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format WAV
Equipment CA-11>BAT-2B>R-09(16/44.1)
Length 160m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation WAV-M>FLAC
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Row H.
AUD #3
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment built-in>TCM-353V
Length 138m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation ANA-1>dEdit>FLAC
Notes Tape flip during Gossamer. Speed problems during the second half of the show. Occasional sections in dual-mono. Crestfallen and I of the Mourning are unlistenable due to a bad tape.
Unsurfaced Recordings
AUD #4
Source AUD
Format DAT
Equipment SPPB>Battery Box>M1
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
Notes Floor, row R (slightly under the balcony).
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format MiniDV
Equipment Sony DCR HC28
Length ~60m
Complete? No
Notes Ava Adore, Soma, A Song for a Son, Landslide, Galapogos, As Rome Burns, Age of Innocence, and possibly others.

Setlist

Soundcheck One:

  • That's the Way (My Love Is)
  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
  • Gossamer
  • Crestfallen
  • As Rome Burns

Soundcheck Two:

  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Soma
  • I Am One Part 2
  • As Rome Burns
  • Ava Adore
  • Cupid de Locke
  • 1979

Set:

  • Ava Adore
  • Cupid de Locke
  • 1979
  • 99 Floors
  • Owata
  • Sunkissed
  • Soma
  • Cherub Rock
  • Zero
  • Bodies
  • Crestfallen
  • I of the Mourning
  • A Song for a Son
  • Landslide [Nicks]
  • Disarm
  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
  • Galapogos
  • Gossamer (16:11)
  • As Rome Burns
  • The Sounds of Silence [Simon]
    • Lil' Red Riding Hood [Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs]
  • The March Hare (12:19 medley)
    • Suffer (middle section only)
  • Age of Innocence

Encore:

  • That's the Way (My Love Is)
  • I Am One Part 2 (15:20)

Notes

  • 99 Floors, Owata, Sunkissed, Landslide, Disarm, and That's the Way (My Love Is) performed acoustic
  • First performance of Gossamer since 2007-07-31
  • First performance of I of the Mourning and Age of Innocence since 2000-12-02
  • First performance of Soma since 1999-04-24
  • First performance of Crestfallen since 1998-10-23
  • First performance of Bodies since 1997-07-09
  • First performance of Galapogos since 1996-12-17
  • First performance of Landslide since 1996-12-11
  • First performance of Cupid de Locke since 1996-05-15
  • First performance of Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness since 1996-05-07
  • First performance of I Am One Part 2 since 1989-09-08

Banter

2008 Intro
Ava Adore
Cupid de Locke
1979
BC: Thank you. ... Harmonica malfunction.
99 Floors (acoustic)
Owata (acoustic)
Sunkissed (acoustic)
Soma
BC: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, thank you! Are you ready? No, are you READY? Alright.
Cherub Rock
Zero
> Bodies
Crestfallen
I of the Mourning
A Song for a Son
BC: Thank you. ... I need to catch my breath, heh heh heh. ... Thank you. It’s what you call in show business “stall” so I can catch my breath. Stalling. This my man Jeff Schroeder right here. Jeff said...
Guy in crowd: Billy, what about Obama?
BC: ‘Scuse me?
Several people in crowd: Obama!
BC: Obama who? Obama who?
People in crowd: He won! We won!
BC: I don’t see any Obama up here, okay? He ain’t doing me any good right now. I mean, god bless my man from Chicago but he ain’t helping me right now, you know what I mean? If he can, if he can help me catch my breath, that would be good. (crowd yelling) This is not an open forum like, uh, you know? This is a rock concert, you remember that? Concerts? As we all know, I do better when I play and not talk so I’m gonna to stick to that program tonight. Gonna show you how we would feel through song, through song. And fortunately for me, I did not write this next song...but I wish I had, it’s a beautiful. I-I think you’ll recognize it.
Landslide (Billy/Jeff acoustic)
BC: Now I did write this next one.
Disarm (acoustic)
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness
> Galapogos
Gossamer
As Rome Burns
The Sounds of Silence
> Li’l Red Riding Hood
The March Hare
> Suffer (partial)
> The March Hare
Age of Innocence
(BC during breakdown after 2nd chorus: Toronto. Toronto. Rock-tonto! Hasn’t caught on yet. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of the show. We’d like to thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.)
[encore break]
That’s the Way (acoustic)
BC: Before we finish up...say thank you one more time for a great show and thank you for the great two night stand, Toronto, thank you. ... And, uh, all pumpkin jokes aside, I think, uh...
Girl in crowd: I love you!
Other girl in crowd: I love you too!
BC: Okay, we’ll deal with that later, baby. Um, heh heh heh. I think, uh, I think there are a few moments in our life that we have to step back and say “whoa” and I think what’s going on in America right now with President Obama, which is mind-boggling. ... I’m very proud of my country right now for doing the right thing. ... So let’s hope that today, today we can look back...ten, twenty years and look back at some new dreams, new realities, new intelligence, heh heh. Maybe they can stop spying on us now. Fuckin’ chem trails, whatever the fuck they’re putting in the air!
Guy in crowd: Billy for president!
BC: Yeah right. ... I’d tax your ass so bad. You guys pay high enough taxes here anyway. You don’t, you don’t need any higher taxes. I mean, right? I know that whole thing where hockey players don’t want to come here ‘cause of the taxes, right? I don’t know. Right? Hurts NHL franchises in Canada, right? Okay. Not that our Hawks in Chicago are doing very well. How are your Kings doing? You don’t want to talk about the Kings. Gretzky’s coming back, I hear...to throw out the first puck, I think. Anyway, thank you very much, uh, for the faint of heart, this is one more trip into interspeller...heh heh...interstellar space so you may want to go now. For the rest of you, enjoy the ride and we’ll see you next time, okay?
I Am One Pt. 2

Photos & Memorabilia

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