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! align="left" | Capacity
! align="left" | Capacity
| 1800 (more watching from outside the venue)
| 1800
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! align="left" | Lineup
| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Aronoff, Garson, Morris, Hodges
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! align="left" | Order of Bands
| Zop Hopop, The Smashing Pumpkins
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1a
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|-
! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
| FM
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! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
| MD
| DAT
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! align="left" | Equipment
! align="left" | Equipment
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| 126m
| 73m
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|-
! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
| No
|-
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| MD-?>CDR
| "Fallin' Out of Sleep" commercial bootleg
|-
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | Unknown #1
! align="left" | Notes
| Likely edited from the live broadcast. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Stumbeline, Shame, For Martha, and 1979.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1b
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| Unknown
| FM
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! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
| Unknown
| DAT
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! align="left" | Equipment
! align="left" | Equipment
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| 121m
| 75m
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! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| Unknown Media/Gen>"Transmissions" commercial bootleg
| "17 Seconds" commercial bootleg
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|-
! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Seems to be from either an FM or TV source.
| Likely edited from the live broadcast. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Shame, and For Martha.
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-28.flac16 16-bit recording]
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | Unknown #2
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1c
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| Unknown
| FM
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! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
| Unknown
| DAT
|-
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! align="left" | Equipment
! align="left" | Equipment
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| 73m
| ~35m
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|-
! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| Unknown Media/Gen>"Fallin' Out of Sleep" commercial bootleg
| "Another 17 Seconds" commercial bootleg
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|-
! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Seems to be from either an FM or TV source. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Perfect, Tonight Tonight, Stumbeline, Shame, For Martha, and 1979.
| Likely edited from the live broadcast. Stumbeline, 1979, and Transmission.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | Unknown #3
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #2
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| Unknown
| FM
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! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
| Unknown
| DAT
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| 75m
| 73m
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! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| Unknown Media/Gen>"17 Seconds" commercial bootleg
| DDC-? > CDR
|-
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-28.FM.DAT.flac16 16-bit download]
|-
|-
! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Seems to be from either an FM or TV source. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Shame, and For Martha.
| Third broadcast. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Stumbleine, Shame, For Martha, and 1979.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | Unknown #4
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| AUD
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! align="left" | Format
| MD
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Length
| 126m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| MD-? > CDR
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #2
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! align="left" | Source
| AUD
|-
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! align="left" | Format
! align="left" | Format
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| ~35m
| 121m
|-
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
| No
| Yes
|-
|-
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| Unknown Media/Gen>"Another 17 Seconds" commercial bootleg
| "Transmission" commercial bootleg
|-
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-28.flac16 16-bit download]
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Seems to be from either an FM or TV source. Stumbeline, 1979, and Transmission.
| Encore break and some banter cut.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1a
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| VHS-1>DVD
| VHS-1 > DVD
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! align="left" | Video Link
| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsoc2s5fhnM YouTube]
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Missing Thru the Eyes of Ruby and Transmission.
| Missing Thru the Eyes of Ruby and Perfect, Transmission cut. VHS-?>DVD transfer also circulates.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1b
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #2
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| VHS-?>VCD
| VHS-? > VCD
|-
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Missing Thru the Eyes of Ruby, Shame, For Martha, 1979, and Transmission. Interspersed with interview.
| Missing Thru the Eyes of Ruby, Shame, For Martha, 1979, and Transmission. Interspersed with interview.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #2
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1
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! align="left" | Length
| 73m
| ~120m
|-
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
| No
| Yes
|-
|-
! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| DDC-?>CDR
| Live broadcast.
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #3
|-
! align="left" | Source
| FM
|-
! align="left" | Format
| ANA
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
|-
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
! align="left" | Length
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1998-05-28.FM.DAT.flac16 16-bit recording]
| ~60m
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
| No
|-
|-
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
! align="left" | Notes
| Second broadcast, aired on May 30th.
|-
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #3
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
| FM
| AUD
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! align="left" | Format
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| Unknown
| Unknown
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! align="left" | Notes
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #4
| There were three separate broadcasts of this show; a live broadcast, a 60m version (broadcast May 30th), and a version of unknown length (broadcast at an unknown date). Unsure which broadcast this is.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #2
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
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! align="left" | Format
| ANA
| MCS
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! align="left" | Equipment
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| Unknown
| Unknown
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1d
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #3
|-
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
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| Unsure which songs this contains. VHS-1>DVD transfer exists.
| Unsure which songs this contains. VHS-1>DVD transfer exists.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1e
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #4
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
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! align="left" | Notes
| Unsure which songs this contains. Possibly the same as other PRO sources. Can anyone confirm?
| Unsure which songs this contains. Possibly the same as other PRO sources.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #5
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! align="left" | Source
! align="left" | Source
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! align="left" | Length
! align="left" | Length
| ~130m
| ~125m
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! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
|-
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #1
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! align="left" | Source
| SBD
|-
! align="left" | Format
| ADAT
|-
! align="left" | Equipment
| Unknown
|-
! align="left" | Length
| ~125m
|-
|-
! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
| Yes
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| Vault copy.
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== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
----
----
Pre-Set
* (interview)
Set:
Set:
* To Sheila
* To Sheila
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* Tonight, Tonight
* Tonight, Tonight
* Stumbleine
* Stumbleine
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* (percussion solo)
** Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Shame
* Shame
* For Martha
* For Martha
Encore:
Encore:
* 1979
* 1979
* Transmission [Joy Division]
* Transmission [Joy Division] [20:45]
** Help [The Beatles] (tease)
** Let's Dance [Bowie] (tease)
** Help! [The Beatles] (tease)
 
=== Notes ===
* Perfect, Tonight, Tonight, and Stumbleine performed acoustic
* There were three separate broadcasts of this show; a live broadcast, a 60m version (broadcast May 30th), and a version of unknown length (broadcast at an unknown date)


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
'''To Sheila'''<br>
> '''Once Upon a Time'''<br>
> '''Ava Adore'''<br>
'''Crestfallen / Eye'''<br>
'''Tear'''<br>
BC: Bonsoir.  Thank you very much for coming.  Hello to the people on the bridge.  Hello to the people up there.  They originally told us that we would actually be playing...with the plants.  Guess that doesn't translate to French.  We'd like to uh, we'd like to dedicate this song to Pakistan...since they decided to now start blowing up nuclear bombs as well.  It's really nice to know that peace is at hand.  Makes me feel nice and safe so um, here's to Pakistan.<br>
'''Daphne Descends'''<br>
> '''Thru the Eyes of Ruby'''<br>
'''Perfect''' (acoustic)<br>
BC: Thank you, thank you.  So uh, this song we'd like to dedicate to you.  No, not you, you.  Like to dedicate this song to you, we appreciate your support very much and um, appreciate you for giving us a beautiful night.<br>
'''Tonight, Tonight''' (acoustic)<br>
'''Stumbleine''' (acoustic)<br>
> '''drum/percussion solo'''<br>
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br>
'''Shame'''<br>
'''For Martha'''<br>
(BC at 12:22: Thank you very much.  On the piano, Mike the Cuddly Lion.  On percussion left, Stephen the Ferocious Dragon.  On ferocious dragon drums, Kenny Aronoff.  On percussion far right, Daniel the Missile Launcher.  My name is Jack, that’s Lucille Ball, and of course...is Jesus Christ.  Thank you!)<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: Hello friends, you are breathers of light.  And now we would like to play yet another song.  We hope we rock you and we hope this has been a joyous moment in your life.  And uh, let's go back to a certain year...nineteen...seventy...''(high pitched)'' I can't hear you!  1979!<br>
'''1979'''<br>
'''Transmission / Let’s Dance / Help!'''<br>
(BC at 20:57: Bonsoir, merci.  God bless you, thank you.)<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>


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Latest revision as of 05:42, 1 October 2024

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1998-05-28
Venue Botanique Gardens
Location Brussels, BE
Venue Type Botanical Gardens
Capacity 1800
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Aronoff, Garson, Morris, Hodges
Order of Bands Zop Hopop, The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
FM #1a
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length 73m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "Fallin' Out of Sleep" commercial bootleg
Notes Likely edited from the live broadcast. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Stumbeline, Shame, For Martha, and 1979.
FM #1b
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length 75m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "17 Seconds" commercial bootleg
Notes Likely edited from the live broadcast. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Bullet with Butterfly Wings, Shame, and For Martha.
FM #1c
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~35m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation "Another 17 Seconds" commercial bootleg
Notes Likely edited from the live broadcast. Stumbeline, 1979, and Transmission.
FM #2
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length 73m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation DDC-? > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Third broadcast. To Sheila, Once Upon a Time, Ava Adore, Crestfallen, Tear, Daphne Descends, Tonight Tonight, Stumbleine, Shame, For Martha, and 1979.
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format MD
Equipment Unknown
Length 126m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation MD-? > CDR
AUD #2
Source AUD
Format Unknown
Equipment Unknown
Length 121m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation "Transmission" commercial bootleg
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Encore break and some banter cut.
PRO #1
Source TV
Format VHS
Equipment Unknown
Length 86m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation VHS-1 > DVD
Video Link YouTube
Notes Missing Thru the Eyes of Ruby and Perfect, Transmission cut. VHS-?>DVD transfer also circulates.
PRO #2
Source TV
Format VHS
Equipment Unknown
Length 54m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation VHS-? > VCD
Notes Missing Thru the Eyes of Ruby, Shame, For Martha, 1979, and Transmission. Interspersed with interview.
Unsurfaced Recordings
FM #1
Source FM
Format DAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~120m
Complete? Yes
Notes Live broadcast.
FM #3
Source FM
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length ~60m
Complete? No
Notes Second broadcast, aired on May 30th.
AUD #3
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AUD #4
Source AUD
Format MCS
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format VID
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
PRO #3
Source TV
Format VHS
Equipment Unknown
Length 115m
Complete? No
Notes Unsure which songs this contains. VHS-1>DVD transfer exists.
PRO #4
Source TV
Format VHS
Equipment Unknown
Length Unknown
Complete? Unknown
Notes Unsure which songs this contains. Possibly the same as other PRO sources.
PRO #5
Source PRO
Format VID
Equipment Pro-Cams
Length ~125m
Complete? Yes
SBD #1
Source SBD
Format ADAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~125m
Complete? Yes
Notes Vault copy.

Setlist

Pre-Set

  • (interview)

Set:

  • To Sheila
  • Once Upon a Time
  • Ava Adore
  • Crestfallen
    • Eye (tease)
  • Tear
  • Daphne Descends
  • Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  • Perfect
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Stumbleine
  • (percussion solo)
    • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • Shame
  • For Martha

Encore:

  • 1979
  • Transmission [Joy Division] [20:45]
    • Let's Dance [Bowie] (tease)
    • Help! [The Beatles] (tease)

Notes

  • Perfect, Tonight, Tonight, and Stumbleine performed acoustic
  • There were three separate broadcasts of this show; a live broadcast, a 60m version (broadcast May 30th), and a version of unknown length (broadcast at an unknown date)

Banter

To Sheila
> Once Upon a Time
> Ava Adore
Crestfallen / Eye
Tear
BC: Bonsoir. Thank you very much for coming. Hello to the people on the bridge. Hello to the people up there. They originally told us that we would actually be playing...with the plants. Guess that doesn't translate to French. We'd like to uh, we'd like to dedicate this song to Pakistan...since they decided to now start blowing up nuclear bombs as well. It's really nice to know that peace is at hand. Makes me feel nice and safe so um, here's to Pakistan.
Daphne Descends
> Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Perfect (acoustic)
BC: Thank you, thank you. So uh, this song we'd like to dedicate to you. No, not you, you. Like to dedicate this song to you, we appreciate your support very much and um, appreciate you for giving us a beautiful night.
Tonight, Tonight (acoustic)
Stumbleine (acoustic)
> drum/percussion solo
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Shame
For Martha
(BC at 12:22: Thank you very much. On the piano, Mike the Cuddly Lion. On percussion left, Stephen the Ferocious Dragon. On ferocious dragon drums, Kenny Aronoff. On percussion far right, Daniel the Missile Launcher. My name is Jack, that’s Lucille Ball, and of course...is Jesus Christ. Thank you!)
[encore break]
Iha: Hello friends, you are breathers of light. And now we would like to play yet another song. We hope we rock you and we hope this has been a joyous moment in your life. And uh, let's go back to a certain year...nineteen...seventy...(high pitched) I can't hear you! 1979!
1979
Transmission / Let’s Dance / Help!
(BC at 20:57: Bonsoir, merci. God bless you, thank you.)

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