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| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion
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| Grant Lee Buffalo, The Smashing Pumpkins
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| Walkman
| built-in > Walkman
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| 107m
| 126m
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| ANA-2>CDR
| ANA-2 > CDR
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1996-09-24.flac16 16-bit download]
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| Missing third encore. Dropout in Siva, left channel is missing for the rest of the show. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida tease is cut.
| Most of Silverfuck is cut on all copies. ANA-3 > dEdit > FLAC and ANA-? > dEdit > FLAC transfer also circulate. The ANA-2 > CDR transfer misses the third encore and has a dropout during Siva, at which point the left channel goes out for the rest of the show, and contains a cut during In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #1
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| SBD
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| ADAT
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| Unknown
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* Today
* Today
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby
** By Starlight
* By Starlight
* Siva
* Siva [6:25]
* Disarm
* Disarm
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
* Bullet with Butterfly Wings
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* X.Y.U.
* X.Y.U.
Encore Two:
Encore Two:
* 1979 (with The Frogs)
* 1979
* The Star Spangled Banner [Key] (tease)
* Muzzle
* Muzzle
Encore Three:
Encore Three:
* The Aeroplane Flies High
* The Aeroplane Flies High
* Silverfuck
* Silverfuck [7:45#]
** Dose [Filter] (tease)
 
=== Notes ===
* Disarm performed acoustic
* 1979 with the Frogs


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro<br>
> '''Where Boys Fear to Tread'''<br>
> '''Zero'''<br>
'''Fuck You'''<br>
'''To Forgive'''<br>
“Thank you for participating” tape<br>
> '''Tonight, Tonight'''<br>
BC: Thank you very much.  We’re the Smashing Pumpkins, very nice to be here tonight.  We’d like to thank people who’ve been listening to us for a while, we apologize for never having come here before.<br>
Iha: Cool.<br>
BC: We wish we’d come earlier and so you have our heartfelt apologies, it won’t happen again.  Hope everyone has a good time.  We don’t talk too much during our concerts ‘cause we just say stupid things so thanks for coming again.<br>
'''Today'''<br>
> Planet of the Apes clip<br>
> '''Thru the Eyes of Ruby'''<br>
BC: ''(high pitched)'' Thank you!<br>
'''By Starlight'''<br>
> '''Siva'''<br>
(BC over intro: That was a song off our last album for those who didn’t know it.  We’d now like to play you a song off our first album.  It was recorded a very, very long time ago in 1991.  We were all young lads and lassies back then.<br>
Iha: ''(British accent)'' Yes, things were simpler back then.)<br>
Iha: Thank you.  That song goes back about 20 years.<br>
'''Disarm''' (acoustic)<br>
Circus tape<br>
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br>
'''Cherub Rock'''<br>
'''Porcelina of the Vast Oceans / Beautiful'''<br>
> '''Rocket''' (tease)<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: You guys are rockin’, thank you so much.  How is everybody?  Okay?<br>
'''In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida''' (tease)<br>
(Iha: So uh...last time I talk to you fuckin’ people.  It’s time, it’s time I [unintelligible word] you Winnipegians.  No actually, I don’t really have anything to say about Winnipeg.  I thought it was an interesting name, Winnipeg.  Why, it brings me back to my childhood.  I had a teacher named Peg and of course there’s the Steely Dan classic song Peg and the thing about Peg is that I was in love with her and well, she was a nurse for the Red Cross.  Oh so many years ago.  Back when I was a GI in the army, I was doing a tour of ‘Nam and well, I met this nurse named Peg.  This woman was a savior to the men and I loved her with all my hearts.  ''(screams)''  I’m sorry about that, I just - I had to get that primal scream [unintelligible word] first out.  I’ve been taking a lot of proactive drugs.  I’m taking Prozac and things to calm my mind, I’ve been taking shock therapy whenever necessary and I want you to all join some primal scream therapy with me.  So when I scream, I want you to scream!  ''(screams)''  [unintelligible screaming]  Alright, I’d like to introduce the blues man on the guitar, BC Billy Corgan from Chicago!  ''(Billy solos)''  Oh my god, that’s crazy!  ''(Billy stops soloing)''  Alright, that’s, that’s bad shit there, mad flava for you Winnipegians, know what I’m sayin’, you motherfuckers?!  Uh, alright, well, we’ll keep the concert rolling along here any second but this is our interlude...<br>
BC: What about Cosmo?<br>
Iha: Oh!  Saving our ass again, Matt “Cosmo” Walker on the drums.  Bass - bass with the motherfuckin’ grace, Ms. D’arcy on the bass.  [unintelligible] Scully and Mulder, this is Ms. X-Files.  Alright, I’ve run out of jokes, so let’s rock.  Oh, I’m James, hi.  Thank you.)<br>
'''X.Y.U.'''<br>
[encore break]<br>
Iha: Merci.  At this time, we’d like to introduce a special guest, all the way from Milwaukee, of The Frogs, Jimmy Frog.  Let’s have a nice round of applause for Jimmy Frog.  His brother Dennis Frog’s on keyboards, be nice.  Yes, thank you, Dennis.<br>
BC: Now uh, tell him if this is true but we heard some girl eat worms to come to the show?  You are the worm girl?  Jimmy, please escort this young lady up to the stage.<br>
Iha: In doing this, we do not glamorize worm eating.  In fact, we’d like to get the radio station person who came up with this idea and make him eat some fuckin’ worms up.  We’re very sorry to hear about this worm fiasco.  They have no idea.<br>
D’arcy: This is - this is the only time this will ever work so don’t try it [unintelligible].<br>
BC: Alright, this is Charmaine.  Okay, Charmaine.  I want you to please explain to everyone what happened...<br>
Iha: And who the culprits are.<br>
BC: ...and why’d you do it?<br>
Charmaine: Um, I ate 12 worms because I love you guys and I’d do anything for you.  Are those [unintelligible word]?!<br>
BC: Oh, we’re told you had to have your stomach pumped, is that true?<br>
Charmaine: No.<br>
BC: So you just digested the worms?<br>
Charmaine: Guess so.<br>
BC: You haven’t seen them in your poop yet?<br>
Charmaine: Heh, no!<br>
BC: For all you know, you’re gonna end up on The X-Files as one of those weird worm people.<br>
D’arcy: Oh no, they’re gonna take your body away.<br>
BC: Well, we very much appreciate that you ate worms to come see us.<br>
Iha: But it’s really not necessary.<br>
BC: We really didn’t want you to have to eat worms.  Well, because you’re up here, we’d like to ask you to dance with us on this next song.<br>
Iha: Can you dance?  We know you can eat worms but can you dance?<br>
D’arcy: Yeah, you must dance.<br>
Charmaine: I don’t know, I can try!<br>
D’arcy: You must dance.<br>
BC: You will dance!<br>
Iha: Do the worm dance.  The worm dance.<br>
BC: You said you’d do anything for us, now prove it.<br>
'''1979'''<br>
D’arcy: Give the worm girl a big hand.<br>
Iha: We just would like to thank our dancers very much.<br>
BC: Vive Charmaine.<br>
Iha: Yes.  And we’d also like to give a salute to the people here who shaved their heads, apparently to get into this concert, we give you 21 gun salutes.<br>
BC: And - and who else will we thank?<br>
Iha: We thank Grant Lee Buffalo for opening tonight, they are a rocking young [unintelligible word].<br>
BC: Sammy, can you put the lights on [unintelligible word]?<br>
Iha: Fine group of men.<br>
BC: Lights, we need lights.  There you are, hello!<br>
Iha: Hello. [unintelligible]<br>
BC: Look at yourself, Winnipeg, you’re beautiful.<br>
Iha: [unintelligible] to be totally proud of you.<br>
BC: Thank you for being very cool, understanding, patient and uh...<br>
Iha: Thank you for being big Zero fans.<br>
D’arcy: And thank you very much for putting the flag up for us of the United States, thank you very much.  What now?  Lookit, it’s right there.<br>
BC: What flag?<br>
D’arcy: Our flag, it’s right there.  That right next to the [unintelligible word].<br>
Iha: You know, everybody...<br>
D’arcy: Why is that?<br>
Iha: You know Canada wants to be the 51st state of America.<br>
'''The Star Spangled Banner''' (tease)<br>
D’arcy: We know you love us but this is ridiculous.<br>
Iha: We’re just kidding!<br>
D’arcy: Why is America [unintelligible]?<br>
Iha: Alright, we have to yell at this [unintelligible].  We’re sorry.<br>
D’arcy: No, we’re not.<br>
Iha: What do you mean, D’arcy, there’s more of them than us, they will beat us up.<br>
D’arcy: No, they won’t.<br>
BC: I don’t understand the problem, we like Canada, what’s the problem?  We wish we could get our fuckin’ act together and stop killing each other in our country with guns and stuff but you know.<br>
D’arcy: It’s - that’s called natural selection.<br>
BC: I mean, don’t complain, you live in a country with low - low amounts of stupid deaths, low amounts of drug deaths, it’s actually clean here....  Most people don’t know this but we’re actually from Chile.  That’s right, Chile in South America.  I know it’s hard to believe but we are from Chile.  We just pretend to be from America, we have done that whole grunge revolution thing and we’ve been riding the coattails ever since and we’d like to thank America for that.<br>
Iha: Yes.<br>
'''The Star Spangled Banner''' (tease)<br>
Iha: Ooh.<br>
BC: They’re very bitter.<br>
Iha: Let’s not get testy.<br>
D’arcy: Don’t get angry just because we’ll take you over soon.<br>
Iha: That was [unintelligible].<br>
BC: Don’t be mad because our hockey team beat yours.<br>
Iha: Alright, [unintelligible].<br>
D’arcy: Don’t be mad because Hollywood films most of their movies here because it’s cheaper.<br>
BC: Aw, come on.<br>
D’arcy: And we have The X-Files.<br>
Iha: We’re joking!<br>
BC: We’re joking, hello?<br>
Iha: [unintelligible], we’re fuckin’ joking.<br>
BC: But now the world has become so PC, you know, you can’t even make fun of each other anymore.  We’re here because we care, we like you and that’s not a problem.  Okay then.<br>
Iha: Hey, we like Bryan Adams, okay?  Alright?<br>
BC: We like The Tragically Hip.<br>
Iha: We like uh...we like Rush.<br>
BC: Wayne Gretzky, he’s cool.<br>
Iha: [unintelligible]<br>
BC: Even though he defected from a Canadian team to go play for an American team, he’s still cool.<br>
Iha: Alright, we’ll stop talking and we’ll just rock from this point on.<br>
'''Muzzle'''<br>
BC: God bless you, thank you.<br>
[encore break]<br>
BC: Please turn off this light right there, thank you.<br>
'''The Aeroplane Flies High'''<br>
> '''Silverfuck / Dose'''<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>

Latest revision as of 18:17, 28 November 2020

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1996-09-24
Venue Winnipeg Arena
Location Winnipeg, MB, CA
Venue Type Arena
Capacity 14,000
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion
Order of Bands Grant Lee Buffalo, The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment built-in > Walkman
Length 126m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation ANA-2 > CDR
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Most of Silverfuck is cut on all copies. ANA-3 > dEdit > FLAC and ANA-? > dEdit > FLAC transfer also circulate. The ANA-2 > CDR transfer misses the third encore and has a dropout during Siva, at which point the left channel goes out for the rest of the show, and contains a cut during In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
Unsurfaced Recordings
SBD #1
Source SBD
Format ADAT
Equipment Unknown
Length ~140m
Complete? Yes
Notes Vault copy.

Setlist


Set:

  • Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
  • Where Boys Fear to Tread
  • Zero
  • Fuck You
  • To Forgive
  • Tonight, Tonight
  • Today
  • Thru the Eyes of Ruby
  • By Starlight
  • Siva [6:25]
  • Disarm
  • Bullet with Butterfly Wings
  • Cherub Rock
  • Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
    • Rocket (tease)

Encore One:

  • In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida [Iron Butterfly] (tease)
  • X.Y.U.

Encore Two:

  • 1979
  • The Star Spangled Banner [Key] (tease)
  • Muzzle

Encore Three:

  • The Aeroplane Flies High
  • Silverfuck [7:45#]
    • Dose [Filter] (tease)

Notes

  • Disarm performed acoustic
  • 1979 with the Frogs

Banter

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro
> Where Boys Fear to Tread
> Zero
Fuck You
To Forgive
“Thank you for participating” tape
> Tonight, Tonight
BC: Thank you very much. We’re the Smashing Pumpkins, very nice to be here tonight. We’d like to thank people who’ve been listening to us for a while, we apologize for never having come here before.
Iha: Cool.
BC: We wish we’d come earlier and so you have our heartfelt apologies, it won’t happen again. Hope everyone has a good time. We don’t talk too much during our concerts ‘cause we just say stupid things so thanks for coming again.
Today
> Planet of the Apes clip
> Thru the Eyes of Ruby
BC: (high pitched) Thank you!
By Starlight
> Siva
(BC over intro: That was a song off our last album for those who didn’t know it. We’d now like to play you a song off our first album. It was recorded a very, very long time ago in 1991. We were all young lads and lassies back then.
Iha: (British accent) Yes, things were simpler back then.)
Iha: Thank you. That song goes back about 20 years.
Disarm (acoustic)
Circus tape
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Cherub Rock
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans / Beautiful
> Rocket (tease)
[encore break]
Iha: You guys are rockin’, thank you so much. How is everybody? Okay?
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (tease)
(Iha: So uh...last time I talk to you fuckin’ people. It’s time, it’s time I [unintelligible word] you Winnipegians. No actually, I don’t really have anything to say about Winnipeg. I thought it was an interesting name, Winnipeg. Why, it brings me back to my childhood. I had a teacher named Peg and of course there’s the Steely Dan classic song Peg and the thing about Peg is that I was in love with her and well, she was a nurse for the Red Cross. Oh so many years ago. Back when I was a GI in the army, I was doing a tour of ‘Nam and well, I met this nurse named Peg. This woman was a savior to the men and I loved her with all my hearts. (screams) I’m sorry about that, I just - I had to get that primal scream [unintelligible word] first out. I’ve been taking a lot of proactive drugs. I’m taking Prozac and things to calm my mind, I’ve been taking shock therapy whenever necessary and I want you to all join some primal scream therapy with me. So when I scream, I want you to scream! (screams) [unintelligible screaming] Alright, I’d like to introduce the blues man on the guitar, BC Billy Corgan from Chicago! (Billy solos) Oh my god, that’s crazy! (Billy stops soloing) Alright, that’s, that’s bad shit there, mad flava for you Winnipegians, know what I’m sayin’, you motherfuckers?! Uh, alright, well, we’ll keep the concert rolling along here any second but this is our interlude...
BC: What about Cosmo?
Iha: Oh! Saving our ass again, Matt “Cosmo” Walker on the drums. Bass - bass with the motherfuckin’ grace, Ms. D’arcy on the bass. [unintelligible] Scully and Mulder, this is Ms. X-Files. Alright, I’ve run out of jokes, so let’s rock. Oh, I’m James, hi. Thank you.)
X.Y.U.
[encore break]
Iha: Merci. At this time, we’d like to introduce a special guest, all the way from Milwaukee, of The Frogs, Jimmy Frog. Let’s have a nice round of applause for Jimmy Frog. His brother Dennis Frog’s on keyboards, be nice. Yes, thank you, Dennis.
BC: Now uh, tell him if this is true but we heard some girl eat worms to come to the show? You are the worm girl? Jimmy, please escort this young lady up to the stage.
Iha: In doing this, we do not glamorize worm eating. In fact, we’d like to get the radio station person who came up with this idea and make him eat some fuckin’ worms up. We’re very sorry to hear about this worm fiasco. They have no idea.
D’arcy: This is - this is the only time this will ever work so don’t try it [unintelligible].
BC: Alright, this is Charmaine. Okay, Charmaine. I want you to please explain to everyone what happened...
Iha: And who the culprits are.
BC: ...and why’d you do it?
Charmaine: Um, I ate 12 worms because I love you guys and I’d do anything for you. Are those [unintelligible word]?!
BC: Oh, we’re told you had to have your stomach pumped, is that true?
Charmaine: No.
BC: So you just digested the worms?
Charmaine: Guess so.
BC: You haven’t seen them in your poop yet?
Charmaine: Heh, no!
BC: For all you know, you’re gonna end up on The X-Files as one of those weird worm people.
D’arcy: Oh no, they’re gonna take your body away.
BC: Well, we very much appreciate that you ate worms to come see us.
Iha: But it’s really not necessary.
BC: We really didn’t want you to have to eat worms. Well, because you’re up here, we’d like to ask you to dance with us on this next song.
Iha: Can you dance? We know you can eat worms but can you dance?
D’arcy: Yeah, you must dance.
Charmaine: I don’t know, I can try!
D’arcy: You must dance.
BC: You will dance!
Iha: Do the worm dance. The worm dance.
BC: You said you’d do anything for us, now prove it.
1979
D’arcy: Give the worm girl a big hand.
Iha: We just would like to thank our dancers very much.
BC: Vive Charmaine.
Iha: Yes. And we’d also like to give a salute to the people here who shaved their heads, apparently to get into this concert, we give you 21 gun salutes.
BC: And - and who else will we thank?
Iha: We thank Grant Lee Buffalo for opening tonight, they are a rocking young [unintelligible word].
BC: Sammy, can you put the lights on [unintelligible word]?
Iha: Fine group of men.
BC: Lights, we need lights. There you are, hello!
Iha: Hello. [unintelligible]
BC: Look at yourself, Winnipeg, you’re beautiful.
Iha: [unintelligible] to be totally proud of you.
BC: Thank you for being very cool, understanding, patient and uh...
Iha: Thank you for being big Zero fans.
D’arcy: And thank you very much for putting the flag up for us of the United States, thank you very much. What now? Lookit, it’s right there.
BC: What flag?
D’arcy: Our flag, it’s right there. That right next to the [unintelligible word].
Iha: You know, everybody...
D’arcy: Why is that?
Iha: You know Canada wants to be the 51st state of America.
The Star Spangled Banner (tease)
D’arcy: We know you love us but this is ridiculous.
Iha: We’re just kidding!
D’arcy: Why is America [unintelligible]?
Iha: Alright, we have to yell at this [unintelligible]. We’re sorry.
D’arcy: No, we’re not.
Iha: What do you mean, D’arcy, there’s more of them than us, they will beat us up.
D’arcy: No, they won’t.
BC: I don’t understand the problem, we like Canada, what’s the problem? We wish we could get our fuckin’ act together and stop killing each other in our country with guns and stuff but you know.
D’arcy: It’s - that’s called natural selection.
BC: I mean, don’t complain, you live in a country with low - low amounts of stupid deaths, low amounts of drug deaths, it’s actually clean here.... Most people don’t know this but we’re actually from Chile. That’s right, Chile in South America. I know it’s hard to believe but we are from Chile. We just pretend to be from America, we have done that whole grunge revolution thing and we’ve been riding the coattails ever since and we’d like to thank America for that.
Iha: Yes.
The Star Spangled Banner (tease)
Iha: Ooh.
BC: They’re very bitter.
Iha: Let’s not get testy.
D’arcy: Don’t get angry just because we’ll take you over soon.
Iha: That was [unintelligible].
BC: Don’t be mad because our hockey team beat yours.
Iha: Alright, [unintelligible].
D’arcy: Don’t be mad because Hollywood films most of their movies here because it’s cheaper.
BC: Aw, come on.
D’arcy: And we have The X-Files.
Iha: We’re joking!
BC: We’re joking, hello?
Iha: [unintelligible], we’re fuckin’ joking.
BC: But now the world has become so PC, you know, you can’t even make fun of each other anymore. We’re here because we care, we like you and that’s not a problem. Okay then.
Iha: Hey, we like Bryan Adams, okay? Alright?
BC: We like The Tragically Hip.
Iha: We like uh...we like Rush.
BC: Wayne Gretzky, he’s cool.
Iha: [unintelligible]
BC: Even though he defected from a Canadian team to go play for an American team, he’s still cool.
Iha: Alright, we’ll stop talking and we’ll just rock from this point on.
Muzzle
BC: God bless you, thank you.
[encore break]
BC: Please turn off this light right there, thank you.
The Aeroplane Flies High
> Silverfuck / Dose