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! align="left" | Venue Type | ! align="left" | Venue Type | ||
| Arena | |||
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! align="left" | Capacity | |||
| 20,004 | |||
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! align="left" | Lineup | |||
| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Order of Bands | |||
| Fountains of Wayne, The Smashing Pumpkins | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #1 | |||
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! align="left" | Source | |||
| FM | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Format | |||
| DAT | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Equipment | |||
| Unknown | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Length | |||
| 134m | |||
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! align="left" | Complete? | |||
| Yes | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation | |||
| "1997" commercial bootleg. | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Live Music Archive | |||
| [https://archive.org/details/tsp1997-01-08.rework.flac16 16-bit download] | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Notes | |||
| "GM Place" and "Slaphead's Revenge" releases are inferior in quality to "1997". | |||
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | FM #2 | |||
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! align="left" | Source | |||
| FM | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Format | |||
| DAT | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Equipment | |||
| Analogue cable FM > Fostex D5 or Sony R500 > DAT (16/48) | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Length | |||
| 134m | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Complete? | |||
| Yes | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation | |||
| DAT-M > FLAC | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Live Music Archive | |||
| [https://archive.org/details/tsp1997-01-08.fm2 16-bit download] | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Notes | |||
| Posted to DIME in 2019. Length matches previously unknown details for FM2 | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1a | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Source | |||
| AUD | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Format | |||
| DAT | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Equipment | |||
| CSB > TCD-D7 | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Length | |||
| 71m | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Complete? | |||
| Yes | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation | |||
| DAT-M > CDR | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Live Music Archive | |||
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1997-01-08.sc 16-bit download] | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Notes | |||
| Soundcheck. DDC-1 > ANA-2 > CDR transfer also circulates. | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #1 | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Source | |||
| AUD | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Format | |||
| DAT | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Equipment | |||
| CSB > TCD-D7 | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Length | |||
| 71m (soundcheck)<br />~135m (show) | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Complete? | |||
| Unknown | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AUD #2 | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Source | |||
| AUD | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Format | |||
| Unknown | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Equipment | |||
| Unknown | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Length | |||
| Unknown | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Complete? | |||
| Unknown | | Unknown | ||
|- | |- | ||
! bgcolor="# | ! align="left" | Notes | ||
| Distant, high treble. | |||
|- | |||
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | SBD #1 | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Source | |||
| SBD | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Format | |||
| ADAT | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Equipment | |||
| Unknown | |||
|- | |||
! align="left" | Length | |||
| ~135m | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! align="left" | Complete? | ||
| Yes | |||
|- | |- | ||
! align="left" | Notes | ! align="left" | Notes | ||
| | | Vault copy. | ||
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Soundcheck: | Soundcheck: | ||
* The | * The Aeroplane Flies High (clips) | ||
* Every Day I Die [Numan]( | * 1979 (clips) | ||
* Thirty-three (clips) | |||
* Rubber Duckie [Sesame Street] (tease) | |||
* We Have No Bananas [Silver and Cohn] (tease) | |||
* Take Me Home, Country Roads [Denver] (tease) | |||
* You Are My Sunshine [traditional] (tease) | |||
* (jam) | |||
* Every Day I Die [Numan] (take one) (instrumental) | |||
* Every Day I Die [Numan] (take two) (instrumental) | |||
* Every Day I Die [Numan] (take three) (Billy on Vocals) | |||
* Every Day I Die [Numan] (take four) (Jimmy Frog on Vocals) | |||
* Every Day I Die [Numan] (take five) (Billy on Vocals) | |||
* By Starlight | * By Starlight | ||
* Where Boys Fear to Tread | * Where Boys Fear to Tread | ||
* | * Space Jam | ||
** Bury Me | ** Bury Me (tease) | ||
* Rhinoceros (instrumental) | |||
Set: | Set: | ||
* Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA) | |||
* Tonight, Tonight | * Tonight, Tonight | ||
* Cherub Rock | * Cherub Rock | ||
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* Disarm | * Disarm | ||
* Thru the Eyes of Ruby | * Thru the Eyes of Ruby | ||
Encore One: | |||
Encore | |||
* X.Y.U. | * X.Y.U. | ||
Encore Two: | |||
Encore | |||
* By Starlight | * By Starlight | ||
* Siva | * Siva [6:15] | ||
** The Great White Buffalo [Nugent] (tease) | |||
Encore | Encore Three: | ||
* The Aeroplane Flies High | * The Aeroplane Flies High | ||
* Silverfuck | * Silverfuck [25:09] | ||
** Space Jam | ** Space Jam | ||
** Bury Me (tease) | ** Bury Me (tease) | ||
=== Notes === | |||
* Rescheduled from 1996-08-12 | |||
* Thirty-three and 1979 performed acoustic | |||
== Banter == | == Banter == | ||
<blockquote> | <blockquote> | ||
( | Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro<br> | ||
'''Tonight, Tonight'''<br> | |||
> '''Cherub Rock'''<br> | |||
> '''Where Boys Fear to Tread'''<br> | |||
BC: Thank you very much. We're the Smashing Pumpkins, thank you very much for coming to the concert. We appreciate it very much. We're sorry, we do not speak French. This is an oldie, this is called Rhinoceros.<br> | |||
'''Rhinoceros'''<br> | |||
'''Zero'''<br> | |||
'''Fuck You'''<br> | |||
'''Porcelina of the Vast Oceans / Rocket'''<br> | |||
BC: ''(raspy)'' Thank you very much. ''(even raspier, making fun of himself)'' Thank you very much. ''(normal voice)'' This is our new single, it's called...Thirty-three.<br> | |||
'''Thirty-three''' (acoustic)<br> | |||
'''1979''' (acoustic)<br> | |||
(BC over intro strumming: Thanks a lot. This next song, I wrote when I was 12 years old. It's kinda sad considering it's a really good song and I haven’t written much better songs since I was twelve but nonetheless, it's a very nice song, I hope you like it.)<br> | |||
Circus tape<br> | |||
> '''Bullet with Butterfly Wings'''<br> | |||
Iha: Woo! Thank you very much, [unintelligible word or two - possibly in French], Canada, Vancouver. We're glad you're back with us, we're rockin' now and uh, we're gonna play another rock anthem for you Vancouveran people, let's rock.<br> | |||
BC: We'll sing this song for you up there, we know we look like little ants but we're actually really tall.<br> | |||
'''Muzzle'''<br> | |||
'''Disarm'''<br> | |||
> Planet of the Apes clip<br> | |||
> '''Thru the Eyes of Ruby'''<br> | |||
[encore break]<br> | |||
[tape cut]<br> | |||
Iha: So today in lovely Vancouver, we went to visit the set of The X-Files and uh, we go way back with them, Chris, Dave, Jill and uh, in fact in some strange way all of our uh - my father knew Chris Carter when he used to live in San Diego, they were fishermen on a wharf. Billy's dad knew Dave's dad and they were...chess players and uh, they've known each other for years and D'arcy in fact, her sister knew Gillian's sister and they go way back and so it was just this crazy thing and we just - we had a laugh, we played some cards and we uh, we became - we were a monster on one of the X-Files episodes today so, we'd like to dedicate this next song to the fine cast and crew of - of that company. And this next song is called ''(whispered)'' X.Y.U.<br> | |||
'''X.Y.U.'''<br> | |||
[encore break]<br> | |||
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. Hey, just for a second, this guy over here, he's got a sign, “I play drums,” you show everybody. Show everyone that you have this sign. Let's just assume that your name is Jeff. I don't know your name but for now your name is Jeff. Jeff, we already have a drummer, his name is Matt.<br> | |||
Iha: Ladies and gentlemen, Matt "Cosmo" Walker!<br> | |||
BC: ''(overlapping with Iha saying same words)'' “Cosmo” Walker!<br> | |||
Iha: Hey. Let's all say “hi, Matt.”<br> | |||
BC: Matt, please lead us into the heavens.<br> | |||
'''By Starlight'''<br> | |||
BC: Thanks a lot.<br> | |||
'''Siva / The Great White Buffalo'''<br> | |||
(BC in middle of Great White Buffalo teasing: Oops.)<br> | |||
[encore break]<br> | |||
Iha: ''(appears mic not working correctly)'' Hey, thank you very much.<br> | |||
BC: Yes, thank you very much for giving us energy. We don't uh, for those of you in the know, we don't talk much after this point so we'll say thank you now, have a nice year, happy new year. We wish you the best of luck and happiness. And we hope to see you again in 1998.<br> | |||
Iha: [unintelligible because mic still not working right]<br> | |||
'''The Aeroplane Flies High'''<br> | |||
> '''Silverfuck / Space Jam / Bury Me'''<br> | |||
(BC at 22:06: Once again, thank you for takin’ a ride on the Infinite Sadness Express. Departure time always and arrival time never. Thank you for being cool, great, wonderful, awesome. Thank you, goodnight. We are, have been and will always be the Smashing Pumpkins.)<br> | |||
BC: Thank you so much, thank you, goodnight, god bless you.<br> | |||
Iha: [3-4 unintelligible words].<br> | |||
</blockquote> | </blockquote> | ||
== Photos And Memorabilia == | == Photos And Memorabilia == | ||
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Latest revision as of 04:03, 1 November 2024
The Smashing Pumpkins | |
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Date | 1997-01-08 |
Venue | GM Place |
Location | Vancouver, CA |
Venue Type | Arena |
Capacity | 20,004 |
Lineup | Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Walker, Flemion |
Order of Bands | Fountains of Wayne, The Smashing Pumpkins |
Surfaced Recordings | |
FM #1 | |
Source | FM |
Format | DAT |
Equipment | Unknown |
Length | 134m |
Complete? | Yes |
Lowest Circulating Generation | "1997" commercial bootleg. |
Live Music Archive | 16-bit download |
Notes | "GM Place" and "Slaphead's Revenge" releases are inferior in quality to "1997". |
FM #2 | |
Source | FM |
Format | DAT |
Equipment | Analogue cable FM > Fostex D5 or Sony R500 > DAT (16/48) |
Length | 134m |
Complete? | Yes |
Lowest Circulating Generation | DAT-M > FLAC |
Live Music Archive | 16-bit download |
Notes | Posted to DIME in 2019. Length matches previously unknown details for FM2 |
AUD #1a | |
Source | AUD |
Format | DAT |
Equipment | CSB > TCD-D7 |
Length | 71m |
Complete? | Yes |
Lowest Circulating Generation | DAT-M > CDR |
Live Music Archive | 16-bit download |
Notes | Soundcheck. DDC-1 > ANA-2 > CDR transfer also circulates. |
Unsurfaced Recordings | |
AUD #1 | |
Source | AUD |
Format | DAT |
Equipment | CSB > TCD-D7 |
Length | 71m (soundcheck) ~135m (show) |
Complete? | Unknown |
AUD #2 | |
Source | AUD |
Format | Unknown |
Equipment | Unknown |
Length | Unknown |
Complete? | Unknown |
Notes | Distant, high treble. |
SBD #1 | |
Source | SBD |
Format | ADAT |
Equipment | Unknown |
Length | ~135m |
Complete? | Yes |
Notes | Vault copy. |
Setlist
Soundcheck:
- The Aeroplane Flies High (clips)
- 1979 (clips)
- Thirty-three (clips)
- Rubber Duckie [Sesame Street] (tease)
- We Have No Bananas [Silver and Cohn] (tease)
- Take Me Home, Country Roads [Denver] (tease)
- You Are My Sunshine [traditional] (tease)
- (jam)
- Every Day I Die [Numan] (take one) (instrumental)
- Every Day I Die [Numan] (take two) (instrumental)
- Every Day I Die [Numan] (take three) (Billy on Vocals)
- Every Day I Die [Numan] (take four) (Jimmy Frog on Vocals)
- Every Day I Die [Numan] (take five) (Billy on Vocals)
- By Starlight
- Where Boys Fear to Tread
- Space Jam
- Bury Me (tease)
- Rhinoceros (instrumental)
Set:
- Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (over PA)
- Tonight, Tonight
- Cherub Rock
- Where Boys Fear to Tread
- Rhinoceros
- Zero
- Fuck You
- Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
- Rocket (tease)
- Thirty-three
- 1979
- Bullet with Butterfly Wings
- Muzzle
- Disarm
- Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Encore One:
- X.Y.U.
Encore Two:
- By Starlight
- Siva [6:15]
- The Great White Buffalo [Nugent] (tease)
Encore Three:
- The Aeroplane Flies High
- Silverfuck [25:09]
- Space Jam
- Bury Me (tease)
Notes
- Rescheduled from 1996-08-12
- Thirty-three and 1979 performed acoustic
Banter
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness Intro
Tonight, Tonight
> Cherub Rock
> Where Boys Fear to Tread
BC: Thank you very much. We're the Smashing Pumpkins, thank you very much for coming to the concert. We appreciate it very much. We're sorry, we do not speak French. This is an oldie, this is called Rhinoceros.
Rhinoceros
Zero
Fuck You
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans / Rocket
BC: (raspy) Thank you very much. (even raspier, making fun of himself) Thank you very much. (normal voice) This is our new single, it's called...Thirty-three.
Thirty-three (acoustic)
1979 (acoustic)
(BC over intro strumming: Thanks a lot. This next song, I wrote when I was 12 years old. It's kinda sad considering it's a really good song and I haven’t written much better songs since I was twelve but nonetheless, it's a very nice song, I hope you like it.)
Circus tape
> Bullet with Butterfly Wings
Iha: Woo! Thank you very much, [unintelligible word or two - possibly in French], Canada, Vancouver. We're glad you're back with us, we're rockin' now and uh, we're gonna play another rock anthem for you Vancouveran people, let's rock.
BC: We'll sing this song for you up there, we know we look like little ants but we're actually really tall.
Muzzle
Disarm
> Planet of the Apes clip
> Thru the Eyes of Ruby
[encore break]
[tape cut]
Iha: So today in lovely Vancouver, we went to visit the set of The X-Files and uh, we go way back with them, Chris, Dave, Jill and uh, in fact in some strange way all of our uh - my father knew Chris Carter when he used to live in San Diego, they were fishermen on a wharf. Billy's dad knew Dave's dad and they were...chess players and uh, they've known each other for years and D'arcy in fact, her sister knew Gillian's sister and they go way back and so it was just this crazy thing and we just - we had a laugh, we played some cards and we uh, we became - we were a monster on one of the X-Files episodes today so, we'd like to dedicate this next song to the fine cast and crew of - of that company. And this next song is called (whispered) X.Y.U.
X.Y.U.
[encore break]
BC: Thank you very much, thank you. Hey, just for a second, this guy over here, he's got a sign, “I play drums,” you show everybody. Show everyone that you have this sign. Let's just assume that your name is Jeff. I don't know your name but for now your name is Jeff. Jeff, we already have a drummer, his name is Matt.
Iha: Ladies and gentlemen, Matt "Cosmo" Walker!
BC: (overlapping with Iha saying same words) “Cosmo” Walker!
Iha: Hey. Let's all say “hi, Matt.”
BC: Matt, please lead us into the heavens.
By Starlight
BC: Thanks a lot.
Siva / The Great White Buffalo
(BC in middle of Great White Buffalo teasing: Oops.)
[encore break]
Iha: (appears mic not working correctly) Hey, thank you very much.
BC: Yes, thank you very much for giving us energy. We don't uh, for those of you in the know, we don't talk much after this point so we'll say thank you now, have a nice year, happy new year. We wish you the best of luck and happiness. And we hope to see you again in 1998.
Iha: [unintelligible because mic still not working right]
The Aeroplane Flies High
> Silverfuck / Space Jam / Bury Me
(BC at 22:06: Once again, thank you for takin’ a ride on the Infinite Sadness Express. Departure time always and arrival time never. Thank you for being cool, great, wonderful, awesome. Thank you, goodnight. We are, have been and will always be the Smashing Pumpkins.)
BC: Thank you so much, thank you, goodnight, god bless you.
Iha: [3-4 unintelligible words].