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| The Smashing Pumpkins
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
| James and D'arcy were very nervous for this show. Sun was still called Death of a Mind at this point. Final performance of Bleed.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1
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| PRO
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| DVD
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| Hitachi F21 Pro Cams
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! align="left" | Length
| 61m
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! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| "Pisces Iscariot" official release
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| VHS-1>DVD
| VHS-1 > DVD
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Very short clips shown in Full Circle documentary. VHS-?>VCD transfer also circulates.
| Very short clips shown in Full Circle documentary. VHS-? > VCD transfer also circulates.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1b
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1b
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| VHS-4>DVD
| VHS-4 > DVD
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! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1988-11-19.flac16b 16-bit download]
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| My Eternity only, as found on the Psycho tape. VHS-?>DVD and VHS-?>CDR audio transfer also circulate (as part of "Three Songs O' Rarities").
| My Eternity only, as found on the Psycho tape. VHS-? > DVD and VHS-? > CDR audio transfer also circulate (as part of "Three Songs O' Rarities").
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Unsurfaced Recordings
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | PRO #1
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | -
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! align="left" | Source
| PRO
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! align="left" | Format
| VID
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! align="left" | Equipment
| Hitachi F21 Pro-Cams
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! align="left" | Length
| ~60m
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! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
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== Setlist ==
== Setlist ==
----
Set:
Set:
* There It Goes
* There It Goes
* She (take 1) (abandoned after 1 minute)
* She (false start)
* She (take 2)
* She
* Under Your Spell
* Under Your Spell
* My Eternity (take 1) (abandoned after 2 minutes)
* My Eternity (false start)
* My Eternity (take 2)
* My Eternity (false start)
* (unknown tease, "Good Morning Mr. Sun")
* My Eternity (abandoned)
* My Eternity
* Bleed
* Bleed
* Nothing and Everything
* Nothing and Everything
* Jennifer Ever (take 1) (abandoned after 1 minute)
* Jennifer Ever (abandoned)
* Jennifer Ever (take 2) (abandoned after 2 minutes)
* Sunshine of Your Love [Cream] (tease)
* Jennifer Ever (false start)
* Jennifer Ever (abandoned)
* Jennifer Ever (false start)
* Jennifer Ever (false start)
* Jennifer Ever (false start)
* Jennifer Ever (false start)
* Jennifer Ever (take 6)
* Jennifer Ever
* Sun
* Death of a Mind (Sun)
* Spiteface
* Spiteface
=== Notes ===
* Cable Access taping
* The band were extremely nervous
* Earliest existing video of the band
*The November 19, 1988 – Roselle, IL show, known as the Pulse Basement Jam, was a cable access taping for a Chicago-area music show called The Pulse. A segment called the Basement Jam was reserved for local artists, who got featured after submitting demos. The Smashing Pumpkins submitted their self-titled demo cassette. The Pulse producer Lou Hinkhouse said he was "blown away" when he heard the tape. He called Billy Corgan and booked them for the show.<br>
<br>
“It was a really unique time for them in their development. None of us that day really knew for sure, but we knew they were on to something. And you can kind of see they feel they're entering a new decade, about to explode on to the national scene … and are about to define a new sound for a new generation. ”
— Lou Hinkhouse, producer for The Pulse<br>
<br>
It is the first known video of the band performing, who were visibly nervous, though this may have been simply a sign of their drive for perfection. The performance in its entirety was included on the DVD that came with the 2012 deluxe re-issue of Pisces Iscariot.


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<i>Note: Incomplete</i><br>
Chamberlin: One, two, three, four!<br>
<b>There It Goes</b><br>
<b>There It Goes</b><br>
Corgan: The name of the next song is She and hopefully I will hear my vocals better. Hint, hint.<br>
Corgan: Are we still rolling? Okay. Oh, okay. Um, the next, the name of the next song is She and hopefully I will hear my vocals better. Hint, hint.<br>
<b>She (take one)</b><br>
Chamberlin: One, two, three, four!<br>
Corgan: I'm having trouble hearing my vocals.<br>
<b>She (false start)</b><br>
<b>She<br>
Corgan: No. Cut.<br>
Under Your Spell</b><br>
Wretzky: What do you mean?<br>
Corgan: Sorry we're wasting time<br>
Corgan: I don't know, man. I'm just um, um, I'm having trouble hearing my vocals, and my voice is weak, so... Thank you.<br>
<b>Jennifer Ever (takes 1-6)</b><br>
<b>She</b><br>
Corgan: Grows on you, don't it. The next song is called Death of a Mind.<br>
Corgan: Well that sucked<br>
<b>Sun<br>
Chamberlin: We could like, hold it out.<br>
Spiteface</b>
Wretzky and Iha: [unintelligible conversation]<br>
Corgan: Sorry.<br>
Chamberlin: Hi, we're The Smashing Pumpkins and we drink Pepsi.<br>
Corgan: Okay. This is Under Your Spell. Featuring D'arcy Wretzky. On the bass of fuzzness.<br>
<b>Under Your Spell</b><br>
Corgan: My Eternity. Okay.<br>
<b>My Eternity (two false starts)</b><br>
Corgan: Uhhh.<br>
<b>(unknown tease)</b><br>
Corgan: Alright.<br>
<b>My Eternity (abandoned)</b><br>
Corgan: Sorry we're wasting your time. And sucking big. Yeah, please, please. I don't know why that is. D'arcy made like a big fuck— yeah you did, made a big fucking...<br>
<b>My Eternity</b><br>
Corgan: Bleed.<br>
Chamberlin: Boy, we haven't done this in a long time.<br>
Corgan: Yeah. Thanks, Nick. Thank you for your patience.<br>
<b>Bleed</b><br>
Corgan: Got it.
Iha, Wretzky and Chamberlin: [unintelligible conversation]<br>
Corgan: Nothing and Everything is the name of this song.<br>
<b>Nothing and Everything</b><br>
Chamberlin: Sounds like we have the slightest idea of what we're doing.<br>
Corgan: Okay. This is our new song, Jennifer Ever.<br>
<b>Jennifer Ever (abandoned)</b><br>
Corgan: Screeching. Hello help me. Have I moved? No, mic's in the same place. I'll pull it back if you want. Check! Still a ring. Check! Check! Check! Check! Yeah, that's better. Yeah, I, it's not bad. Hey man, this is the world of music.<br>
<b>Sunshine of Your Love (tease)</b><br>
Corgan: Rolling? Okay. This... hello? Yes. Um, this song is about, three and a half minutes at the most.<br>
<b>Sunshine of your Love (tease)</b><br>
Corgan: Huh? [unintelligible] It's just like, one, two, boom-boom-boom. Do one of those Lucy kaleidoscopes, with our heads rotating. No, we don't, we only do, the only cover we play, um, we've only played two covers, uh, Time Has Come today, and uh, um, What Goes On by The Velvet Underground and that's it. Ready? Okay. This song is called Jennifer Ever.<br>
<b>Jennifer Ever (abandoned)</b><br>
Wretzky: I got lost. I'm sorry.<br>
Corgan: Ahh, come on!<br>
Chamberlin: Aw, it was going so good. Ready?<br>
Corgan: Okay. This is Jennifer Ever.<br>
<b>Jennifer Ever (false start)</b><br>
Corgan: This is Jennifer Ever.<br>
<b>Jennifer Ever (false start)</b><br>
Wretzky: What?<br>
Iha: How? Her fault, her fault.<br>
Chamberlin: What, are you crackin' up on me?<br>
Corgan: I tried to like, "This is Jennifer Ever!" Sorry.<br>
Chamberlin: Take fifty.<br>
Corgan: To the men out in the trucks, we love you and we're sorry. And the ladies, I'm sorry, I forgot.<br>
Wretzky: What was that little note there?<br>
Corgan: That was called the, an F sharp 9 and 7.<br>
Chamberlin: Let's try to do it.<br>
Corgan: Okay. I won't introduce the song.<br>
<b>Jennifer Ever</b><br>
Corgan: Thank God for that.<br>
Wretzky: You've heard it enough times. It's in your head.<br>
Corgan: It grows on you, don't it.<br>
Wretzky: After about ten times<br>
Corgan: Two more. Right? Okay. This is called Death of a Mind. Yeah, less reverb on the drums. No it's not!<br>
Wretzky: Yes it is!<br>
Corgan: Go!<br>
<b>Death of a Mind (Sun)</b><br>
Corgan: One more. Thank you very much. One more. Least one more. Okay. No. Keep it under control. This is Spiteface, thank you. One, two, three, four!<br>
<b>Spiteface</b><br>
Corgan: Thank you. Thanks, Lou.<br>
Chamberlin: Hey, um, did they say the first, first version we did of that?
</blockquote>
</blockquote>



Latest revision as of 04:35, 23 October 2024

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1988-11-19
Venue Roselle Music
Location Roselle, IL, US
Venue Type TV Studio
Capacity Unknown
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Chamberlin
Order of Bands The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
PRO #1
Source PRO
Format DVD
Equipment Hitachi F21 Pro Cams
Length 61m
Complete? Yes
Lowest Circulating Generation "Pisces Iscariot" official release
PRO #1a
Source TV
Format VHS
Equipment Unknown
Length 1m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation VHS-1 > DVD
Notes Very short clips shown in Full Circle documentary. VHS-? > VCD transfer also circulates.
PRO #1b
Source PRO
Format VID
Equipment Hitachi F21 Pro-Cams
Length 5m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation VHS-4 > DVD
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes My Eternity only, as found on the Psycho tape. VHS-? > DVD and VHS-? > CDR audio transfer also circulate (as part of "Three Songs O' Rarities").
Unsurfaced Recordings
-

Setlist

Set:

  • There It Goes
  • She (false start)
  • She
  • Under Your Spell
  • My Eternity (false start)
  • My Eternity (false start)
  • (unknown tease, "Good Morning Mr. Sun")
  • My Eternity (abandoned)
  • My Eternity
  • Bleed
  • Nothing and Everything
  • Jennifer Ever (abandoned)
  • Sunshine of Your Love [Cream] (tease)
  • Jennifer Ever (abandoned)
  • Jennifer Ever (false start)
  • Jennifer Ever (false start)
  • Jennifer Ever
  • Death of a Mind (Sun)
  • Spiteface

Notes

  • Cable Access taping
  • The band were extremely nervous
  • Earliest existing video of the band
  • The November 19, 1988 – Roselle, IL show, known as the Pulse Basement Jam, was a cable access taping for a Chicago-area music show called The Pulse. A segment called the Basement Jam was reserved for local artists, who got featured after submitting demos. The Smashing Pumpkins submitted their self-titled demo cassette. The Pulse producer Lou Hinkhouse said he was "blown away" when he heard the tape. He called Billy Corgan and booked them for the show.


“It was a really unique time for them in their development. None of us that day really knew for sure, but we knew they were on to something. And you can kind of see they feel they're entering a new decade, about to explode on to the national scene … and are about to define a new sound for a new generation. ” — Lou Hinkhouse, producer for The Pulse

It is the first known video of the band performing, who were visibly nervous, though this may have been simply a sign of their drive for perfection. The performance in its entirety was included on the DVD that came with the 2012 deluxe re-issue of Pisces Iscariot.

Banter

Chamberlin: One, two, three, four!
There It Goes
Corgan: Are we still rolling? Okay. Oh, okay. Um, the next, the name of the next song is She and hopefully I will hear my vocals better. Hint, hint.
Chamberlin: One, two, three, four!
She (false start)
Corgan: No. Cut.
Wretzky: What do you mean?
Corgan: I don't know, man. I'm just um, um, I'm having trouble hearing my vocals, and my voice is weak, so... Thank you.
She
Corgan: Well that sucked
Chamberlin: We could like, hold it out.
Wretzky and Iha: [unintelligible conversation]
Corgan: Sorry.
Chamberlin: Hi, we're The Smashing Pumpkins and we drink Pepsi.
Corgan: Okay. This is Under Your Spell. Featuring D'arcy Wretzky. On the bass of fuzzness.
Under Your Spell
Corgan: My Eternity. Okay.
My Eternity (two false starts)
Corgan: Uhhh.
(unknown tease)
Corgan: Alright.
My Eternity (abandoned)
Corgan: Sorry we're wasting your time. And sucking big. Yeah, please, please. I don't know why that is. D'arcy made like a big fuck— yeah you did, made a big fucking...
My Eternity
Corgan: Bleed.
Chamberlin: Boy, we haven't done this in a long time.
Corgan: Yeah. Thanks, Nick. Thank you for your patience.
Bleed
Corgan: Got it. Iha, Wretzky and Chamberlin: [unintelligible conversation]
Corgan: Nothing and Everything is the name of this song.
Nothing and Everything
Chamberlin: Sounds like we have the slightest idea of what we're doing.
Corgan: Okay. This is our new song, Jennifer Ever.
Jennifer Ever (abandoned)
Corgan: Screeching. Hello help me. Have I moved? No, mic's in the same place. I'll pull it back if you want. Check! Still a ring. Check! Check! Check! Check! Yeah, that's better. Yeah, I, it's not bad. Hey man, this is the world of music.
Sunshine of Your Love (tease)
Corgan: Rolling? Okay. This... hello? Yes. Um, this song is about, three and a half minutes at the most.
Sunshine of your Love (tease)
Corgan: Huh? [unintelligible] It's just like, one, two, boom-boom-boom. Do one of those Lucy kaleidoscopes, with our heads rotating. No, we don't, we only do, the only cover we play, um, we've only played two covers, uh, Time Has Come today, and uh, um, What Goes On by The Velvet Underground and that's it. Ready? Okay. This song is called Jennifer Ever.
Jennifer Ever (abandoned)
Wretzky: I got lost. I'm sorry.
Corgan: Ahh, come on!
Chamberlin: Aw, it was going so good. Ready?
Corgan: Okay. This is Jennifer Ever.
Jennifer Ever (false start)
Corgan: This is Jennifer Ever.
Jennifer Ever (false start)
Wretzky: What?
Iha: How? Her fault, her fault.
Chamberlin: What, are you crackin' up on me?
Corgan: I tried to like, "This is Jennifer Ever!" Sorry.
Chamberlin: Take fifty.
Corgan: To the men out in the trucks, we love you and we're sorry. And the ladies, I'm sorry, I forgot.
Wretzky: What was that little note there?
Corgan: That was called the, an F sharp 9 and 7.
Chamberlin: Let's try to do it.
Corgan: Okay. I won't introduce the song.
Jennifer Ever
Corgan: Thank God for that.
Wretzky: You've heard it enough times. It's in your head.
Corgan: It grows on you, don't it.
Wretzky: After about ten times
Corgan: Two more. Right? Okay. This is called Death of a Mind. Yeah, less reverb on the drums. No it's not!
Wretzky: Yes it is!
Corgan: Go!
Death of a Mind (Sun)
Corgan: One more. Thank you very much. One more. Least one more. Okay. No. Keep it under control. This is Spiteface, thank you. One, two, three, four!
Spiteface
Corgan: Thank you. Thanks, Lou.
Chamberlin: Hey, um, did they say the first, first version we did of that?

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