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! align="left" | Venue Type
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| Club
| Club
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! align="left" | Capacity
| 350
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! align="left" | Lineup
| Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Chamberlin
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! align="left" | Order of Bands
| The Frogs, Fog, Catherine, The Smashing Pumpkins
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! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
! bgcolor="#ffe156" colspan="2" | Surfaced Recordings
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! align="left" | Length
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| 75m
| 73m
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! align="left" | Complete?
! align="left" | Complete?
| Yes
| No
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! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| ANA-3 > FLAC
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! align="left" | Lowest Gen
! align="left" | Live Music Archive
| ANA(?)>CDR
| [http://www.archive.org/details/tsp1993-07-23.aud.ana3 16-bit download]
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! align="left" | Notes
! align="left" | Notes
| Two separate ANA-? transfers circulate from this date, one (xdx version) has a dropout in Cherub Rock and tape speed problems in I Am One one, unsure of the other
| Dropout in Cherub Rock, speed problems during I Am One. ANA-? > FLAC and ANA-? > CDR transfers also circulate.
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! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1a
! bgcolor="#fff9de" colspan="2" align="left" | AMT #1a
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| No
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! align="left" | Lowest Gen
! align="left" | Lowest Circulating Generation
| VHS(3)>DVD
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! align="left" | Notes
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* Mayonaise
* Mayonaise
* Hummer
* Hummer
* Siva
** Sympathy For the Devil [Rolling Stones] (tease)
* Star Spangled Banner [Key]
* Siva [4:31]
** (instrumental jam)
** I'm So Tired [Beatles] (tease)
** (jam) [4:45]
** Star Spangled Banner [Key] (tease)
 
== Notes ==
*In 1993, Smashing Pumpkins’ frontman Billy Corgan saw The Frogs at a small club in Madison, Wisconsin, and invited them to open for Smashing Pumpkins.  The first time The Frogs did so was at the Unicorn, Milwaukee show on July 23, 1993.


== Banter ==
== Banter ==
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
(unknown)
[MC intro]<br>
<b>Cherub Rock </b><br>
Wretzky: Please don't kill anybody... please don't kill us<br>
Corgan: Just remember there's people getting smushed. [in French accent] Can't we all just get along, we just wanna get along. This here's called 'Quiet'<br>
<b>Quiet</b> <br>
Corgan: Please.. please take it easy out there. <i>Please,</i> don't push, OK<br>
Iha: Yeah I know we suck<br>
Corgan: Yes, yes, we are from Chicago... That's Jimmy and Jimmy and Jimmy and I'm Jimmy<br>
<b>Today </b><br>
Wretzky: Are you suffering? I'm sorry. We're suffering too<br>
Corgan: See it says Devil not Gunga-Din. I am not your waterboy, I am your entertainer. If you want water don't come to the desert, ya know what I'm saying? This is another song off our new LP called 'Rocket'<br>
<b>Rocket </b><br>
Corgan: Damn right<br>
Iha: We're gonna play an old song for ya<br>
Corgan: Is everybody OK? Shall we stop? Want us to quit playing?<br>
<b>I Am One <br>
Soma <br>
Dancing In The Moonlight</b><br>
Corgan: I hope you like that Thin Lizzy song<br>
Iha: We're getting back to our roots<br>
Corgan: This is my heavy metal guitar<br>
Iha: We thought we'd kick it off for a few unspoken minutes there<br>
Corgan: We're gonna play you some heavy metal<br>
Iha: This next song is dedicated to the stud lord Mark Groom<br>
Corgan: Whoever was mixing Catherine really had hearing problems, I mean what the fuck! So what do you want to hear?<br>
Iha: We only got one song.. [crowd requests]... alright here it is! Alright we'll play Crossroads if you'll just shut up<br>
<b>Crossroads (tease)<br>
Window Paine (blues version)</b><br>
Corgan: Thank you. This here's called Geek, Geek U..<br>
<b>Geek U.S.A.</b> <br>
Corgan: Wow, it's really hot... let me state some more obvious things - I'm a boy and I'm in a band and...<br>
Audience member: You cut your hair<br>
Corgan: Yeah I cut my hair, I cut my pubic hair, cut off my legs.. <br>
Audience member: Coverdale/Page!<br>
Corgan: Huh, what? Everyone has a message but it doesn't mean anything to me<br>
Audience member: Play something good<br>
Corgan: Play something good? Say something intelligent, you fuck.. <br>
Audience member: You're better than Sting<br>
Corgan: Yeah, you're damn right we're better than Sting. You know there's like a hundred people outside going 'please get me in, please get me in' and it's like, it's like there's always gotta be five assholes who like.. huh, what?..
See a simple, a simple small show like this can't be a completely entirely happy situation. Someone's gotta be a dick, someone's gotta say something stupid, why, why? Explain to me, why, what the point?<br>
Audience member: Why the hell not?!?!<br>
Corgan: Why the hell not? That's what you form a band for, see, so you can stand up here and say whatever you want. I was once an opinionated bystander and now I'm an American<br>
<b>Mayonaise</b> <br>
Corgan: You must be really bored. Well what happened to all the songs we play, if it's not good enough<br>
<b>Hummer </b><br>
Corgan: Well we're almost out of time. [crowd boos] Yeah I know, I make the laws, you came in by chance... so, we'll make this our last song and we'll go out on a high note.. well you know after the show we'll be in the parking lot with our acoustic guitars, OK<br>
Iha: We're gonna be some Saga songs outside after he show. We all remember Saga... and we all know what a sweaty palm feels like, it's really disgusting<br>
Corgan: So we will be back in the fall and play a normal sized place. Not that, not that the Unicorn is abnormally sized, but let's just say it's a version of a version, that's better logic<br>
Iha: And again we'd like to fuck - fuck!?! - thank<br>
Corgan: We'd like to fuck and thank<br>
Iha: And you all, fuck you all!<br>
Corgan: And let's, let's,  hey sssh!<br>
Iha: What I meant to say is, please, Gus<br>
Corgan: Say thank you Gus, thank you Gus<br>
Iha: And now let's play a little feedback<br>
<b>Siva <br>
Star Spangled Banner (tease)<br>
instrumental jam</b> <br>
Corgan: I hope.. I hope grunge dies and falls off the face of the earth, down with grunge<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
== Photos & Memorabilia ==
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Latest revision as of 06:01, 17 October 2024

The Smashing Pumpkins
Date 1993-07-23
Venue Unicorn
Location Milwaukee, WI, US
Venue Type Club
Capacity 350
Lineup Corgan, Iha, Wretzky, Chamberlin
Order of Bands The Frogs, Fog, Catherine, The Smashing Pumpkins
Surfaced Recordings
AUD #1
Source AUD
Format ANA
Equipment Unknown
Length 73m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation ANA-3 > FLAC
Live Music Archive 16-bit download
Notes Dropout in Cherub Rock, speed problems during I Am One. ANA-? > FLAC and ANA-? > CDR transfers also circulate.
AMT #1a
Source AUD
Format VID
Equipment Unknown
Length 7m
Complete? No
Lowest Circulating Generation VHS-3 > DVD
Notes Hummer only, as seen in Fruit Bat Salad Volume 2. Shot from on stage.
Unsurfaced Recordings
AMT #1
Source AUD
Format VID
Equipment Unknown
Length ~75m
Complete? Yes
Notes Onstage, shot for the band. "Hummer" from this source appears in the Fruit Bat Salad Volume 2 video.

Setlist

Set:

  • Cherub Rock
  • Quiet
  • Today
  • Rocket
  • I Am One
  • Soma
  • Dancing in the Moonlight [Thin Lizzy]
  • Crossroads [Johnson] (tease)
    • Window Paine (blues version)
  • Geek U.S.A.
  • Mayonaise
  • Hummer
    • Sympathy For the Devil [Rolling Stones] (tease)
  • Siva [4:31]
    • I'm So Tired [Beatles] (tease)
    • (jam) [4:45]
    • Star Spangled Banner [Key] (tease)

Notes

  • In 1993, Smashing Pumpkins’ frontman Billy Corgan saw The Frogs at a small club in Madison, Wisconsin, and invited them to open for Smashing Pumpkins. The first time The Frogs did so was at the Unicorn, Milwaukee show on July 23, 1993.

Banter

[MC intro]
Cherub Rock
Wretzky: Please don't kill anybody... please don't kill us
Corgan: Just remember there's people getting smushed. [in French accent] Can't we all just get along, we just wanna get along. This here's called 'Quiet'
Quiet
Corgan: Please.. please take it easy out there. Please, don't push, OK
Iha: Yeah I know we suck
Corgan: Yes, yes, we are from Chicago... That's Jimmy and Jimmy and Jimmy and I'm Jimmy
Today
Wretzky: Are you suffering? I'm sorry. We're suffering too
Corgan: See it says Devil not Gunga-Din. I am not your waterboy, I am your entertainer. If you want water don't come to the desert, ya know what I'm saying? This is another song off our new LP called 'Rocket'
Rocket
Corgan: Damn right
Iha: We're gonna play an old song for ya
Corgan: Is everybody OK? Shall we stop? Want us to quit playing?
I Am One
Soma
Dancing In The Moonlight
Corgan: I hope you like that Thin Lizzy song
Iha: We're getting back to our roots
Corgan: This is my heavy metal guitar
Iha: We thought we'd kick it off for a few unspoken minutes there
Corgan: We're gonna play you some heavy metal
Iha: This next song is dedicated to the stud lord Mark Groom
Corgan: Whoever was mixing Catherine really had hearing problems, I mean what the fuck! So what do you want to hear?
Iha: We only got one song.. [crowd requests]... alright here it is! Alright we'll play Crossroads if you'll just shut up
Crossroads (tease)
Window Paine (blues version)
Corgan: Thank you. This here's called Geek, Geek U..
Geek U.S.A.
Corgan: Wow, it's really hot... let me state some more obvious things - I'm a boy and I'm in a band and...
Audience member: You cut your hair
Corgan: Yeah I cut my hair, I cut my pubic hair, cut off my legs..
Audience member: Coverdale/Page!
Corgan: Huh, what? Everyone has a message but it doesn't mean anything to me
Audience member: Play something good
Corgan: Play something good? Say something intelligent, you fuck..
Audience member: You're better than Sting
Corgan: Yeah, you're damn right we're better than Sting. You know there's like a hundred people outside going 'please get me in, please get me in' and it's like, it's like there's always gotta be five assholes who like.. huh, what?.. See a simple, a simple small show like this can't be a completely entirely happy situation. Someone's gotta be a dick, someone's gotta say something stupid, why, why? Explain to me, why, what the point?
Audience member: Why the hell not?!?!
Corgan: Why the hell not? That's what you form a band for, see, so you can stand up here and say whatever you want. I was once an opinionated bystander and now I'm an American
Mayonaise
Corgan: You must be really bored. Well what happened to all the songs we play, if it's not good enough
Hummer
Corgan: Well we're almost out of time. [crowd boos] Yeah I know, I make the laws, you came in by chance... so, we'll make this our last song and we'll go out on a high note.. well you know after the show we'll be in the parking lot with our acoustic guitars, OK
Iha: We're gonna be some Saga songs outside after he show. We all remember Saga... and we all know what a sweaty palm feels like, it's really disgusting
Corgan: So we will be back in the fall and play a normal sized place. Not that, not that the Unicorn is abnormally sized, but let's just say it's a version of a version, that's better logic
Iha: And again we'd like to fuck - fuck!?! - thank
Corgan: We'd like to fuck and thank
Iha: And you all, fuck you all!
Corgan: And let's, let's, hey sssh!
Iha: What I meant to say is, please, Gus
Corgan: Say thank you Gus, thank you Gus
Iha: And now let's play a little feedback
Siva
Star Spangled Banner (tease)
instrumental jam
Corgan: I hope.. I hope grunge dies and falls off the face of the earth, down with grunge

Photos & Memorabilia

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